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Massive $20 Billion Paper Gold Sell Orders Trigger Stop Loss Selling And Unfounded Panic

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Reports suggest that a futures sell order worth $6 billion, equal to 4 million ounces or 124.4 tonnes of gold, by a large investment bank sent prices plummeting and spooked the markets contributing to the decline. The order was believed to have been placed through Merrill Lynch's brokerage team.

The futures market then saw a further wave of selling of contracts worth some $15 billion, equivalent to 10 million ounces of selling or 300 tonnes, in just 35 minutes.

Investment banks and hedge fund speculators can manipulate the paper or futures gold price in whichever direction they want in the short term due to the massive 20 to 1 leverage they can utilise and that is what was clearly seen on Friday.

Gold futures with a value of over 400 tonnes were sold in hours and this is equal to 15% of annual gold mine production. The scale of the selling was massive and again underlines how one or two large banks or hedge funds can completely distort the market by aggressive, concentrated leveraged short positions.
It may again be the case that bullion banks with large concentrated short positions are manipulating the price lower as has long been alleged by the Gold Anti Trust Action Committee (GATA). The motive would be both to profit and also to allow them to close out their significant short positions at more advantageous prices and possibly even go long in anticipation of higher prices in the coming weeks.

Those with concentrated short positions may also have been concerned about the significant decline in COMEX gold inventories.

The plunge in New York Comex’s gold inventories since February is a reflection of increased demand for the physical metal and concerns about counter party risk with some hedge funds and institutions choosing to own gold in less risky allocated accounts.

Comex gold bullion inventories have slumped 17% already in 2013, falling to just 286.6 metric tons of actual metal on April 11, the lowest since September 2009.

This means that futures speculators on Friday sold a significant amount of more paper gold, in an hour or two, then the entire COMEX physical gold bullion inventories.

Interestingly, the drop in Comex inventories would be the biggest for a whole year since 2001, when bullion began its secular bull market.

Absolutely nothing has changed regarding the fundamentals of the gold market and bullion owners are advised to again focus on the long term and the vital diversification benefits of owning gold over the long term.

Although some Federal Reserve policy makers said that they probably will end their $85 billion monthly U.S. bond purchases sometime in 2013. The key word is ‘probably’ and it remains unlikely that the Federal Reserve will stop their debt monetisation programmes any time in 2013 or even in 2014.

Even if the Fed did end them, ultra loose monetary policies and negative real interest rates are set to continue as are competitive currency devaluations and currency wars - two other fundamental pillars supporting the precious metal markets.

Buyers are now presented with another very attractive buying opportunity. We always caution against trying to “catch a falling knife” and buyers should hold off until we get a few days of higher closes or a weekly higher close. Alternatively, they should consider dollar, pound or euro cost averaging into a position at these levels.

Sellers should consider holding off as if contemplating selling they may have missed their opportunity and if they have to sell they may be best placed holding off until prices bounce or recover. Sellers are now disadvantaged both in terms of price but also in terms of premiums that have spread on some physical bars such as one kilo bars.

In the course of gold’s bull market, vicious sell offs like this have often presaged material weakness in stock markets and this may occur again.

Gold’s ‘plunge’ is now headline news which is bullish from a contrarian perspective. Less informed money is again selling gold or proclaiming the end of gold’s bull market.

The smart money such as certain hedge fund managers, high net worth individuals, pension funds, family offices, institutions and creditor nation central banks and will see this vicious sell off as an absolute gift and will accumulate again on this dip.

A long term allocation to physical gold bullion to hedge systemic and monetary risk remains vital.


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une petite explication à la chute de gris
il font peur la :o

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Massive $20 Billion Paper Gold Sell Orders Trigger Stop Loss Selling And Unfounded Panic

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Reports suggest that a futures sell order worth $6 billion, equal to 4 million ounces or 124.4 tonnes of gold, by a large investment bank sent prices plummeting and spooked the markets contributing to the decline. The order was believed to have been placed through Merrill Lynch's brokerage team.

The futures market then saw a further wave of selling of contracts worth some $15 billion, equivalent to 10 million ounces of selling or 300 tonnes, in just 35 minutes.

Investment banks and hedge fund speculators can manipulate the paper or futures gold price in whichever direction they want in the short term due to the massive 20 to 1 leverage they can utilise and that is what was clearly seen on Friday.

Gold futures with a value of over 400 tonnes were sold in hours and this is equal to 15% of annual gold mine production. The scale of the selling was massive and again underlines how one or two large banks or hedge funds can completely distort the market by aggressive, concentrated leveraged short positions.
It may again be the case that bullion banks with large concentrated short positions are manipulating the price lower as has long been alleged by the Gold Anti Trust Action Committee (GATA). The motive would be both to profit and also to allow them to close out their significant short positions at more advantageous prices and possibly even go long in anticipation of higher prices in the coming weeks.

Those with concentrated short positions may also have been concerned about the significant decline in COMEX gold inventories.

The plunge in New York Comex’s gold inventories since February is a reflection of increased demand for the physical metal and concerns about counter party risk with some hedge funds and institutions choosing to own gold in less risky allocated accounts.

Comex gold bullion inventories have slumped 17% already in 2013, falling to just 286.6 metric tons of actual metal on April 11, the lowest since September 2009.

This means that futures speculators on Friday sold a significant amount of more paper gold, in an hour or two, then the entire COMEX physical gold bullion inventories.

Interestingly, the drop in Comex inventories would be the biggest for a whole year since 2001, when bullion began its secular bull market.

Absolutely nothing has changed regarding the fundamentals of the gold market and bullion owners are advised to again focus on the long term and the vital diversification benefits of owning gold over the long term.

Although some Federal Reserve policy makers said that they probably will end their $85 billion monthly U.S. bond purchases sometime in 2013. The key word is ‘probably’ and it remains unlikely that the Federal Reserve will stop their debt monetisation programmes any time in 2013 or even in 2014.

Even if the Fed did end them, ultra loose monetary policies and negative real interest rates are set to continue as are competitive currency devaluations and currency wars - two other fundamental pillars supporting the precious metal markets.

Buyers are now presented with another very attractive buying opportunity. We always caution against trying to “catch a falling knife” and buyers should hold off until we get a few days of higher closes or a weekly higher close. Alternatively, they should consider dollar, pound or euro cost averaging into a position at these levels.

Sellers should consider holding off as if contemplating selling they may have missed their opportunity and if they have to sell they may be best placed holding off until prices bounce or recover. Sellers are now disadvantaged both in terms of price but also in terms of premiums that have spread on some physical bars such as one kilo bars.

In the course of gold’s bull market, vicious sell offs like this have often presaged material weakness in stock markets and this may occur again.

Gold’s ‘plunge’ is now headline news which is bullish from a contrarian perspective. Less informed money is again selling gold or proclaiming the end of gold’s bull market.

The smart money such as certain hedge fund managers, high net worth individuals, pension funds, family offices, institutions and creditor nation central banks and will see this vicious sell off as an absolute gift and will accumulate again on this dip.

A long term allocation to physical gold bullion to hedge systemic and monetary risk remains vital.



Ce texte n'a qu'un défaut: il ressemble de trop près à ce que j'ai envie de lire !!!
Mias apres tout, les prédictions auto-réalisatrices: pourquoi pas ??

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Dans ma signature, j'ai mis la video d'un type qui decortique la manipulation du cours de l'or...

Pour moi, ca se tient, mais les critiques sont les bienvenues...

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Ca se tient :

- les banquiers ont tellement vendu d'or-papier qu'ils sont très très très ennuyés de la hausse des cours ces dernières années
- les banques centrales impriment plein de pognon en ce moment donc elles ont "des liquidités"
- les mêmes banques centrales achetant elles-même de l'or (physique cette fois-ci pour renforcer leurs réserves) elles ont intérêt à ce que le prix soit le plus bas possible
- donc tout le monde s'entend pour faire baisser les cours : les banquiers vendent aux banques centrales de l'or-papier à pas cher, qui est comptabilisé à parité égale avec l'or physique dans la détermination des cours (1 lingot papier = 1 vrai lingot)

Mais bon, tout ça doit se retrouver dans les bilans des uns et des autres, non ?


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On entre en déflation, et les gens se sont rendus compte que l'or et l'argent ne servait pas à grand chose dans la vie de tous les jours.

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Tandis que le stock de billets anciens, les pièces carrément "numismatiques", les jades et les ivoires, les tapis ghoum et Hérêké, c'est le moment de prendre tranquillou sa PV dessus, attendant que l'or remonte. :P

Les onces de silver, d'accord avec Ludo33: à vendre plein pot! De toute façon, vu qu'il y a toujours des acheteurs et presque plus de vendeurs...


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Merci, très intéressant goldseek.com

à lire aussi :
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Le Dow Jones est-il soutenu au détriment de l’or et des matières premières ?

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Nous finissons par nous demander — face à autant de mouvements aussi incompréhensibles que brutaux en un laps de temps aussi réduit — s’il ne s’agit pas d’une stratégie bien orchestrée afin de soutenir le Dow Jones en vendant les actifs libellés en euro, tout en instillant une peur viscérale concernant tout support d’épargne autre que les actions.

http://la-chronique-agora.com/dow-jones ... premieres/

il faut sauver le soldat Dow Jones

perso j'attends le soldat Delamarche et sa chronique demain matin ;)


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Merci au robot de l'espace pour sa petite vidéo.
Maintenant, je sais ce que c'est de l'or papier.


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rominet a écrit:
Merci au robot de l'espace pour sa petite vidéo.
Maintenant, je sais ce que c'est de l'or papier.


You're very welcome... ;)

jo24 a écrit:
La qualité du son aurait pu être meilleure ;)


Hé bé, cé l'acsent deu maarrseillee..eu...

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