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La dernière vidéo de Jim Sinclair (1er février 2014)- 45 minutes:
En bref, l'hyperinflation va envoyer l'or à 50.000 dollars l'once.
Pas de confiscation de l'or, mais une taxation importante sur la plusvalue

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I am break hunter welcome to USA watchdog dot com
today we have a guest that people have been asking for since I've been doing
videos I can't tell you how many times that of fifty 70 100
times people have your 7 email left a comment on the site that said
you really need to get jim sinclair all and you know Jim Sinclair travels
internationally he's in and out of his office all the time and finally we've
gotten GM sand clay Arab JS
mindset mister gold Jim Sinclair thank you for joining us today on USA watchdog
cop
well thank you right I just regular Laura introduction your published of
there you've written books
you have traded derivatives in a darker period in your career as you said
you owned brokerage houses you are a big-time investor you own online
are mining concerns the Tanzania royalty
exploration company is that right all strike okay and I you know so you are
they skate call you mister gold
you are an expert on goal and I just want to continue this
introduction just a little bit longer I've done some research on you and yet
made a couple of monster
calls in goal and seventy-four
when gold had gotten up just you know about a hundred sixty seventy dollars an
ounce
add quite peak 74 Pete in terms of it
net time it to you set a goal would go to
around nine hundred dollars an ounce by 1980 and sure enough
it did now with call you had a terrible saw law for around 200 down two hundred
dollars an ounce
it took three years to get back to 200 but your call
that it would be about nine hundred dollars an ounce anyways 8758 entered a
high
they call call number two was fast or to 2000
about 2002 in goal was in that year at know exactly when you made this call but
you made the call
late 2000 to end goal was trading for about three hundred and sixty dollars
and out in use at on or before January 14 2011 will be 1650
well I it took until June up 2011 it was fifteen
eighty I mean here I'll click your help to read their
maybe not exactly in the middle but you're in the polls I and it did hit
1650 just a few months later in the summer of 2011
now here we are again and you are
out here and before we make any calls I just want people to understand
as a long international sorry perhaps so excited to have yet I just want people
to understand the fundamentals in touch with go back to the fundamentals adult
why should people own gold physical
gold or reason is simple: gold is church
and want to ensure issue against is everything that has to do with
confidence in which coal currency
straight the dollar so all just
get situations even nash's
lying on our allies a anything that can affect confidence in the US dollar
his head lie sure like dole
I the combination is
get dollar goal
lets the influencing items that all come down
to conscious and confidence lost
is a currency that and hyperinflation
that which I expect is not any had economic
it's an event ever currency losing confidence in a very short period of
time
and you think we're headed for some sort of hyper-inflation a lot of folks John
Williams thinks that
a Eric Sprott was talking about just recently a collapse or hyperinflation
you think the dollar gets hammered I think the dollar gets hammered
I i believe that we are headed for
a hyper inflation but it's important for our
it so the audience to understand that in every
at in every period were hyper inflation has
and part and parcel Academy dismissals terror
everyone %eh inflation has something to do with
demand do there they don't recognize it you can get it cost
questions effects costs higher because
currencies though into disarray or lower
it's a currency it lost confidence in the dollar
which is going to result in the hyperinflation that goal will without
any doubt in my mind whatsoever
goal will ensure the investor gets
it you know some people I have written me and just recently had somebody write
me and I
and I tell that they say a word about the price if I buy it now could go down
did already missed a train that I already do this so that
and you know I gotta tell you that I I'm not a traitor
you are and you have did and you know people who do it well day endorsing any
I'm not a traitor by just tell people that you know it's really kind of an
insurance policy
if what how do you tell somebody that if that is a goal
older that right now is at a good time to hold gold because at the
the situation that we're in or if you bought gold don't sell gold
if you are at a higher price 18 or 19 or 1700 bucks
very simply haven't we know that tomorrow as in today or the day after
we have so many things great wrong the economy so late
holes it looked like so many fingers stuck in the dike in trying keeper
that also ocean she that any one of those who create
what 10 20 30 events
it could create significant loss of confidence nothing is changed in Japan
worst
routers haven't gone away they've grown it hasn't gone away
its it has gone up exponentially there is no argument
that that says dollar is entering into a period of strength
the US economy recovery is at best
straight line with a slight ups uptrend but very slow
very French very easily derail her all of which
sex traffickers finishes up and gold is trading the dollar
loss of confidence by a matter can create a significant appreciation goal I
believes
that when it comes about will be brought about by the
bricks and the haitian bowl when it rises to the level so that expected to
go to
will not hold more than 20 percent from those levels
after he goes out to second crash again it's good
go down in equalize it and I I firmly believe that this
mistake game is very similar to the cheap variation 7 eastward goals up
sharply
and where the gold banks and interest that would be considered if the
anti-dole
made the most on the long side in the shortest her in the seventies
I mean when when you said in seventy forced to go to 800 people like
chain it's already gotten 35 deaths you know 160 bucks get outta here mister
Sinclair
it went down from 200 you up a just a little more than a hundred bucks
in a nine months later 1975 course it was three years later report
broke back to do under ike i've seen a similar pattern
with what's been going on the last few years at it we had this nineteen hundred
now we had a guy has a lateral 12 100 or something
and now we're you know krone's wall back up is that
the pattern you're talking about edged at Orange great people
so what you're saying is you're seeing the same action people
on the answers it is exactly small is literally
no question about the people who make the most money over the shortest period
of time in the gold market or are always a goal banks normally identified
the desired appreciate place dole
a last question and that in this segment and then I want to get into the larger
picture here
only people will slow say hey I can buy GLD
I can buy you know exchange-traded funds as opposed to haul around the sole
physical gold
what say you physical our paper
physical because the a exchange-traded funds
don't necessarily own just go in fact a own
golden various terrific assaults and their lending a goal is controlled by a
a the same entities that are associated with the depreciation
Press if in exchange was to
a what necessarily going to go so let's say the Komets toasty cash item
because the Polish inventory warehouses
told that which is capable able and ready for delivery
goes down to two lower number then you can expect they
the paper will come into question and in the question
paper is the question up the entire makeup
I I should please read the prospectus is four you feel the
easy way that is of course G update is the right way
it is its long what best way to have gold in hand
physical in your possession St that goal ultimately function well just up
okay hours %uh thinking the other night
and I've been a a a actually last night
and I've been a reporter for a long time since the seventies I've never seen it
this way
and where things that comes to my mind is is that people I think
are intentionally willfully ignorant
or willfully delusional or they are in denial
that we are facing and what we are that we're facing something terrible
and my question to you is where are we right now
what are we facing that people are just refused to look at
we're facing and I elation turns where
facing the shift america is a leading in
and most influential nation in the world to some harm
I'll Banana Republic where
station if we lost our strains in military
into being a second-rate such I N
the banking industry were facing the possibility
love avail and rather bailout
on the individual level if it wasn't for food stamps
we have long I'll long lines waiting for a
preaching I if it wasn't for
the fact that we educate every night when we watch the evening news or rather
watch the
financial g'day that education says Charles
that everything is okay that big figure was unexpected
and that the standards put on
even negative savior's all just in that would give you confidence that there
should be some recovery in the future
she the it figures that we're looking at
figure to console a sunfish since 1970
that I would suggest should be heard inflationary indices to show inflation
that it would be very difficult for
the in normal indices we look at that that
tell us the condition and the other should be seen
of mister Williams lets us see so it's a its
all the true condition they are but we are in
all a aid decelerating recovery
which by definition economically is an accelerating
I recession you are up boldly going around that
world and telling people to get out up the system
gots get out up the system and surely one of the things you're
warning people about is what you just mentioned palance
and I know the IMF widely reported that they add that the European Union should
say
is I think the IMF play this out that they've data plan laid out
start in Europe I can imagine this would go around the globe
that they would take a you %uh percentage a people's network including
equity in their homes
tell you about this and why are you telling people to get out for a party
telling the people got a system in
bring in the bail in question cause legal
money that they've deposited in banks she'll the proper legal definition going
back to 1815 British law
but also in US and Canadian law it's just recently that if you put your money
in the bank urine unsecured
lengthy about that unsecured lending studying was good as a bundle
she so the lenders are going to at
going to take the brunt not the taxpayers is how this will be packaged
in Seoul
problems the lenders are the people watching this program
the lender is the person who holes what he thinks she thinks his money in the
bank
that is their ass in moment you put the money in the bank it is no longer here s
becomes an asset to the bank and you become an unsecured loan
now the eye and a propose one more very important
all criteria for the I'll the
up baylon I all and Beijing Bela
and that was said retirement funds
are keeping I could be nationalized after that
we've had retirement funds nationalizing Russian
where the russians say they will pay back Sunday I we had
retirement income %uh nationalize
in polo where there has been no
no comment on any type report sheesh the INS
seems to be the center for all change state in class
miss Lagarde seems to be the voice change
in that the banking system which that will put the onus
upgrade a rescuing banks
on the apostles on the bondholders
that the only issue now is on the people watching this
to come up with the losses which which if you take everything into
consideration
in Cyprus was total eighty-three percent
the essence because you when you get that worthless bankshares know we're so
thankful for is you can't count that it's like
and when you have a blog deposit what you gotta keep in the back you can't
take ahtext
percentage you can't call but all you can call lamesa checked each
that is actually paid okie the losses catastrophic
and day period of time when this is all being
put into place all muscles how to the harbor
a for the she herd animals had a storekeeper
pay its suppliers are the manufacturer okay employees
had a husband giveaway money shock when all you get is two hundred years
so the the example sites
which we might have considered to be a slow a little Russian I'll
attending the European by is in fact
the luper or what we're going to experience
here the united states like bail and is written right into the
into the budget of the and over the Canadiens
it's written right in Jalore in in
the Netherlands its written inch written into law that most people have looked at
Jan white paper signed by the yet by the
a United States and bankable by the FDIC
on the United States bank it sitting there
in BIST is cheaper only have to look and see
that they're in harm's way now if you're in harm's way eddie Van Atta
step to the left to the right so doc should get out at the system says
you sit there with your deposit in the bank with all of your money with your
broker who are banks now in many cases
and each bench institutions which took
a Asian the government most likely the ones to go up
to blow up again I in fact Duplo
your account great at your bro
your banking culture but all gonna be
K for the amount of funds and that
it may even be extended to equity and equity or profitable positions
and for anybody who doesn't think this can happen to america if you would think
all this over in europe site presser bolander
russia that would never happen to america i mean according the FTSE we
have excessive 10
trillion dollars on deposit
and there there's no way that the FTSE can ensure that they got said like 30 33
billion dollars in
in the deposit insurance fund it insurance and they're not get the
government's after a ride and make everybody hope they're not gonna pretend
money if they did they different that much money at the disaster when it
the government not gonna make everybody hole we're gonna make the banks also
there
there violations good common sense speculation
bonuses hi cells on the new rich
and new rich the were on it it's tough to catch their
its everybody even if you didn't pay debts
all just had a deposit on the bus and each other
all telling isn't coming isolating United States
our banking system is no better than the banking system in your
truth to be told because up the all
ability not to ask if value that that crack paper over-the-counter derivatives
held by the banks
because our gatekeepers I'll counting have blessed
banks Chi whatever value they won hope
here's the black hole black hole that is up I'll
unaccounted for also lost the Banshee carrying
unlike the CK on those losses
is your that brings us to to
quantitative easing I watching the Business Channel yesterday
and the st. leave it on talking about helped it definite taper
Inc you know the middle a 2006 census taper in 2014
and back to another one your calls back when they first started
cue we won and I'd even know you that goes
what after the meltdown 2000 8
and aback when they first started cue we won you came out boldly said I'll
start this up getting a cutie to infinity this goddess never
gonna stop this is not gonna stop and sure enough my first heard that after
every thought when I thought that
I'll call on the record I just keep reading money
are they law well yes it
the action chest cue we want your dick you a to cutie to turn into twist
twist is where we are now where they keep so we're gonna taper no we're not
yes we are no we're not
and your what is your %uh view up kiwi and courses got a little my next
question about gold
it they're not going to stop David XQ we do infinity but what's your definition
video catalogue to infinity obviously
by definition of insanity is point 70 on the US team wats
hier it would be significant weakness in the US dollar
actual solo in there and then below that would cause
Hwy woke you change now let's go back to health
look this is for help so i cant Bernard your break let's say that
that he had been successful with you and we were in a significant sustained
long-term
economic recovery without any doubt
then you would think that the balance sheet impair could take place
the bank's institutions and businesses because it's all about cheating
alt if they could it other words in other words make the money back
they could make the money I and your same day earlier this interview said we
have at best we have a straight flat line that maybe
slightly going up and you're saying there's no way they can earn the money
back
at double-a and if there's any reason why for Nike well
is news is happiness retirements its recognition
that part of love not having been so and therefore
Hwy %uh not productions in terms of how it was originally set up
now what what is still in the kitchen with julie is limited by the condition
that the US Top
what is the US dollar tight confidence
was confident what a what would we happen if there was a loss a pessimist
a higher price goal clearly we're not gonna bring down the debt will
the economy is not in boldly all sustainable
or I'm week covering your is not in a bowl
sustainable recovery she lost its not accounted for is the difference between
the real value at the over-the-counter derivatives held by the
world banking system specially the western-backed system
remember China THQ people to dealing in derivatives
they have a little just as shit and
that that lost is what for Nike ad hoc
bachelor earn back I'll be able to recognize slow
but may have it either recognized slowly
or earned it back and now we've gone into a situation
where a E conduct over banking community
is clearly through the signs are being paid
and agree to quite literally and easy I think I could probably call up on a
major
banks today and she gets to lose that TRX
gotta find them two billion for some sort of but impropriety and then start
negotiating
but we are in the situation which is as bad or worse in 2008
and we've got so many things in so late nights that the
that it would only be a miracle
it's a if it held together a recognition
anything it's expensive and sticky every finger at the Dunkin brands in a
situation
multiple as a multiple a bit the problems we went searches thousands
another thing that I want to bring up without your up
a protection here that with the worse in 2008
is it that they're so many blacks wives and we're increasing the Black Swan said
for example just recently
you know the European that union lock to the United States out about you know a
financial data back
because of the spying Angela Merkel's phone was hacked she's calling the
president on the carpet for president United States
and here I find this very troubling and is got a big snooze
and totally under-reported if reported it all the saudis
whether you like the situation and she is in Syria are not whether it's just
whether it's not without
where funny al Qaeda but the saudis are
angry at the US and they even called us perfidious
you blatantly on trustworthy platelet perfidious
and they said they could have a major change and you know and how we deal with
the US for the only major changes start
accepting payment and oil and some other currency what would happen if the saudis
said yeah I will take you on
yeah I will take up your tech euros will take a reality will take rupee
what happened to the dollar over the you try to attack him as a terrorist nation
the that something is even impossible to think because the main strengths in the
US dollars
eckardt's the main source petrodollars dollar's exchange
oil-rich Saudi Arabia should a should there be a change in that the dollar
would
the dollar was up three hundred points in one simple would go for what 8250
I I think fifty cents
you they'll be devastating to the dollar the day they announced that it would
crush
stamps beats 305 retreat that wouldn't report stopped it in time
I believe the dollar will go to justice on the USGS and
so the dollar would if so get this straight hair
right dollar take the first
major major major crack technical in the dollar
waking me nor miss if you look at the long-term charter the dollar
are the thing is slow to a head and shoulders
all over the place not only is also playing head and shoulders going back
many many many
years but they're their little ones ever
and you would take in with Jake the major head and shoulders out
which was which is some 125 welfare check at a major
head and shoulders from 125 which had been taken out of all the sudden you can
imagine we're
up what would it look like to the man on the street with the price of gas P
if the dollar took a big hit can are talking about
ten dollars down the rehearsal without a doubt
because it because of the impact on the dollar
and it would also take the euro chick very high low you know it we've talked
with your
positively when it was a dollar nineteen we were the only one out there saying
that the euro was then only if the dollar
coming into 2014 well yes you know
a arguable fundamental reason why it should but will
said people so you know ABT cars or food stamps
their social security there their pensions know that would go up
they would take a massive loss in the buying power
%uh any fixed income is that what you're saying yes system saying
but if you fly back to mortgages you better go back and look at what's
happened in his chin
but check the Special Forces being a recently valuation 1994
what happened in mortgages there they were reset I
against the new tires so the the
let's be a little careful about saying that Paul want to occur and will pay off
a fifty thousand dollar mortgage
it all to in all probability by historical precedent won't because the
bankers will
thank you so they won't issue they'll say
well oh you ol you know 200,000 old dollars
well that are we value that jet 200,000 new dollars
or a hundred thousand new dollars which is really 30 thousand dollars upping
that you're safe to say that change the currency and revalue your mortgage in
the new currency and I think you're free pass
is not good yes reports you know we value and puts
another reason why you must own goal or interns
you have to own the strongest terms
how okay I wanna go to move on to my next
question here and that is what you said about the price a golden and we're
talking about a big spectrum call here
not talking about you note trading I'll and trading account goes up as you said
trading gold
trading your insurance you to our trade your insurance correct
and you're up against its largest lines in the world and its inside game unless
you're on the inside you can't play the game
so the best way you anybody could do is go by get it
as asset and hold on large no borrowing anything gold gold gold shares
GLD for that matter no margin whatsoever you said something that I thought was
profound on your way said a lot of things that profound JS mindset dot com
and that is that goal is gonna go up this is not speculation
this is policy is def
you take a look at China importing hundreds a turns
up gold this year alone they're the biggest or not
one of the biggest gold miners in the world they sell not a bit
so there they're keeping all their gold production every year they reporting
eight nine hundred tons thousand tonnes a year
tell me about your your your long-term call that
gold is going up because it is policy
it is not speculation
long term call I'm told it's based on the on the match
a she a bunch physical level
on paper goal and the Chula match station
is the is seeing the warehouse
up the futures exchanges for if the warehouses in the future exchanges
can't be counted on to make normal deliverance
then the then the exchanges will have to
make a change in the country in order to avoid
it's all the %uh make that change to avoid pitfalls a question for you
let me interrupt right here is the day coming we're comex
LBMA cannot or will not deliver gold
as what you're talking about Estill absolutely us
that's what they panicked about back in the hut days which I know of a lot about
it bought their own room a bunker and her
it with two different girls and Boca didn't do paperwork
is was hurt so they missed the first and noticed a place three days
on it crazy guys on the call much decided they were going to take you live
that was evidence that they were going to take delivery while the only evidence
it was
was the poker was a little sloppy respectful
and you know I was very much involved in liquidating
you work up although curtail equity state court itself but its
it's also the reason why it just suppositions
as a chairman of the Advisory Committee for the establishment that the Singapore
Gold Exchange up while on this poll exchanges country physical called
much future and revision in training a stud cycle
because with the meditation physical gold chain
a purple will will allow true valuation you can't come in the way manipulation
other
and read that doesn't all doesn't make me any better because I manipulated it
up
and the person who manipulated down another incarnation when I was 30 sought
the results
but all you do is you cumin and that's saying what you love it up
you did for years production nobody's outnumbered
sell it to you if they run like mad by asking each other ago so today they take
it down by or from two or three years
well production in in periods
time when there's very little to put it as for you get this straight line else
but you can only do that will stay you can't do it justice
so he question that you have to make deliveries Singapore Exchange under my
chairmanship is an
up the Advisory Committee Wilson will
night would give me cash three days
own goal to meet so in other words nobody can come out say
yeah I've got a $5 million dialysis up goal to sell
we'd like to sell it today on the exchange and your in Singapore Exchange
gonna say
great bring it out here let's see a you actually five million ounces
share tastic put it right here on the floor because we're gonna deliver it
today
or or miniature put up the money it represents a sliver in three days
yep okay not agree no more
naked short-selling no more about your pushin
put your thumb on the price and likewise with it on going on the upside
like to likewise on the others are alright great where's your money
yeah we should deliver to you I don't have to put up the money they don't have
too many of her three years production products
but I doubt they don't have to put up the money and because they're
metals dealers they don't even have to put up the whole large
so the this type exchanges is
taking place in russia a starting in cash exchange on the russian Stock
Exchange
and there are five different locations around the world because I happen to
think singapore
will be the leading one but them but prejudiced
but now the emancipation that thats that is the event emancipation
up physical gold priced price
funding mechanism some paper
justices now physical gold is much
will be much easier to hold place
this is the goal will be much harder just saying she up
physical gold will be a product up %uh just
a bowl taking its proper position
as 8,000 was everything against value
so the standard wasn't so the standard is so now
the countries like China and if you took a pass
stated a goal to a a green as she went on
took the entire world any children all places in the world will turn out
valuing their gold at the market price
not at this is still for teaching 22 the United States
you'll find out that have the globe map is valuing their goals
market price including the year so
Colby 1 like a like it
a necklace around the neck up her she's
run their business correctly who have the surpluses required to like
and the value of currencies will be very slowly
influence but not by other make
than up early autumn a test but influenced by the amount of Gold Hill
that's like China spine so much special I Russian spies month on twenty shit
stain
where I see the first after the great Rishi after the great level
I should just let the the bricks will make this suggestion
and it will be ignored by the United States by 2020
great we set will be in place and probably claim to have been the
invention of the west
that's when we start me started as they were back in the sixties you can go into
great long-term
industrial all agricultural its functions
up so does so by a 35-32 to 3500 is for the
use for the great resource after the great reset again to leave that up to
other people
where is the great reset what it was I going to look like the great reset this
it Palin's is this the taking the pension funds for one case
is just there the dollar dropping this is the great leveling
esta grade level well as we head that way flushing
that was lupus great flushing whistling
what's a great leveling starts next year
and will involve everything you just mentioned work is going to be what the
great level yes
well we can have a middle-class sharing the income was all the rich people
so you're done with lookouts also doesn't just a name
black to Detroit try and fight so
social it's a function it doesn't just for more
so now it's time to check it out the little girl totally comfortable
white-collar us that are making a decent living working for the
operations involving that will be a peak in the stock market
involved in that would be higher higher interest rates forced but Mark
a forced by a loss of confidence in US dollar
more so than a supplier but treasures sale
Potter that would be the bell Inn because all about this place to mention
will
uncover the bank's weakness on the black hole I told you about its not accounted
for
it was a gatekeepers accounting have declared it today
a all changed accounting function that can be used
so after the great level which should be
ok 2014 to 2016 eighty
a quick switch at when accumulating goal in two halves
of fundamentally better homage to the mir 0 being able to bring people into a
consumption
function that up to now or essence it had nothing
we're not consumers many schools just greater
where you bring in millions upon millions and billions new consoles
that they fundamental strength said that that equation is much greater than the
real pictures
the supposed 3 economic recovery we've had in the West
where the bricks go to a system were goal reflects
the value of occurrence and the US says to hell with you
where the US dollar or not analyst no matter where the dollars
now the list with lupus and then over the next four years fall in line with
the press
when you talk about this great leveling and
you know it the people gonna be wiped out I mean the stock market is not going
to hold up
the day they announced they're going to start tapering as they did in juneau
this year is in the stock market got followed up that
is in that we're all this wealth is that Americans they they're gonna walk out at
the casino with all their money
liquidity is always been the greases the wheels equity markets and
and the reason to worry have hyper look pretty
don't have hyper-inflation yet but we certainly have hyper-link bird
you you have to say all those tree and certainly don't sit in a modest
for so the stock market will sign the value is all stock markets have
in the change your time when the quite recently when the sinus and S
when the world was she somebody who struggles
and so similarly the real reason for equities being so strong
is the I the subjective knowledge
a flood and hyper liquidity
means to general equities but they also find it up
and when they do the drop is spectacular and
and the stock market a is certainly
up by all normal measures quite a bit overextended
it will become more overt standards and delaying
delight defined insanity on Hwy is being
the US Ski exit seven so yes
a pre will take place that will take place because if you don't pay per
dollar club that
on its all play orders of magnitude
so yeah the magic number is 70 on the US date the exit 70
nine and change right now and you're saying just that's a lot of points to go
down right
well so I love place with from the top 125
its cover lot States where it is now I mean that's
from where it is now it could its its the saudis decided to go to
to all currencies including that I'll
I you with busted up play with you it
immediately things would fall out a bit it for all technical
all technical bottom protect predictions with someone making what's all right
into the ditch
if the saudi start takin payment for their oil insensitive
it out and dollar decline for any reason including cue a 2.70
then it would be it would be straightening just
at free fall thank you we would have to contain
it and what about Israel drop in a at daisy cutter on top a buyer and said you
know they've been threatening and I
I don't want people to think that I'm for this I'm just trying to forecast
what may happen and ask you about it
it looks like the israelis are going to wait to infinity
they're going to wait forever for the Iranians to
the you too bolander nuclear program which they say is
for the peaceful productive anybody either way what happens if you are a
list
israel's beginning to pay itself into a corner with statements
what it will do and the truth of the matter is it's better not to threaten
its strategy there
it you really are going to so the
the amount of threatening I think comes more some weakness for Justin Stroh
so I prefer not to think what will happen but of course again if you say
you're only given one more month duration redline
what are you gonna do when the muscles on a chance to get about it
all it goes away you lose credibility what's happened was all the red lines
USSR
on just like the way she we lose credibility on credibility speech to
couples
on some stage two goals you're saying that to at the end of this month what
you heard the same reports I did that Israel
is paying himself decision where you have a go
are they lose massive credibility a if they have already done that
often mean that they couldn't be any worse than statements to levels it was
just a tangible
you think that with an abut they could be
trying to knock out shuttle they said we get basically said we're getting a month
or else so it's must close by an or else doesn't happen there was total credible
what happens to gold if Israel attacks Iran ago
goal with the words climb higher levels because
what happened to your energy prices up I don't think
cycle would go up based on more like that it didn't spread
except between the combatants upon but Paul
would have a city at do the derivative market if we have
you know I'm not down drag out start your quickly spiral out of control with
the Iranian start attacking the US
ships and by rain and are based there and a you know hezbollah starts fire
rockets in the Tel Aviv and Hamas starts firing rockets from the south end
you know into you know Israel and all the sudden the russians are involved
were involved the child as it up paying
World War three what happens to the derivative market all you have to hope
basically the grid market the change in interest rates
will be the biggest problem the derivatives which I themselves and she's
interest rate
related to residents other are primarily makeup
this huge mountain of paper that to be I S is understated and such
and the next biggest your thats is
derivatives in Paris course current season I'm but
which stuff flying all over the place so I would say it
you basically have to a billion trading alder reversed because it would be
impossible we trade
the bids would not be there get the system meltdown
absolutely just in meltdown because it's nothing more than
and I all you shield good news
camouflaging very difficult situations
and it's too many holes in the dike at the same tunnel
some food stamps to then hearst's
many other reason you don't have up red lines today
is because officials half the americans earn substantially amended this after
the Americans legitimately don't have home
well what's your biggest fear about what are you going around could tell people
get out of the system what's your biggest fear
sum it up in a couple census comfort
yet upgrading the thank each alls missed some spots
you think people could lose all their cash our lives I think that people could
lose
at least that was less to Cyprus eighty-three percent one way or another
and %uh this my last question to you because their bodies waiting for a big
call on gold I
fuck you up at the beginning and a year near term for goal what's going to be
doing in the next two three four
months five months trying to go to 1650 which is the tension points ago
it will their 16th St Mall right just 30 2400 drop
one rise to thirty which it is the 3235
the shore were going to be the use and thats before 2016 you so you think gold
3500 before 2016
missile will people madly be running into it well the bankers finally take
their
some of it and start pushing it up I think dole has a life of its own
when I think it has purchased adjustables
and I'm my calculations to the post in Cola made without
world turning towards goal ship finder investment
but rather with those normally associated with coal
also losing their share of the market this
it's been engendered by manipulation it's taking gold some
1900 kids but she's slightly lower the present levels
which seems about what you could call a gold
what's the big game Sinclair call on gold
I'm almost embarrassed see let's hear it
and gold match think me as if I care
physical gold emancipated from all
paper go which I believe will happen gold he was fifty thousand dollars
you gotta say that again goal
mass a physical gold emancipated from Paper Co
formation is no exchange in which i'm involved
result will be physical goals just two thousand dollars it's
it for anyone who thinks that you're crazy yet made similar calls and
1970 after I went from 35 death around 260
back in that 2002 I think it was three under 60 bucks
in your said it would go up to 16 50
surely get that beyond that the years following an ass come down some
sold out fifty thousand dollars as a good confiscate
gold or they go to confiscate some gold in other words I find it hard to believe
that
that they will not stay Gold Eagles after selling and everybody
up to 2016 and 2021 that great reset action
action involves the West I
the prediction on goal is 30 to 35 hun when dole is a massive failure
60,000 the reasons for the reason for
a the confiscation goal back in the 1930s was told was Q-eight
you had to have more gold mine section more currents
now that doesn't just so if you're concerned that
yet though confiscated then what you're saying is you're going to be punished
will be incorrect in the marketplace a I don't believe so
a fistful when salt gains tax or one goal
is is a emancipated and goes to
she was outrageous prices yet Winslow gains tax and some degree
but not nine salt alrighty
Jim Sinclair you are mister gold
JS mindset dot com I go there every day incidently almost every day
thank you so much for joining us for extensive interview
at just to let people know me and calling you mister gold is really kinda
Bob
almost in cell me when you trade gold from my vantage point I look at people
who do itttt rate
you got to know everything you gonna currencies geopolitical
you gotta know a your stocks bonds a Kiwi
gotta know government you gonna do everything to trade gold
and also get basic MZ you basically study everything
to come up with these gotta predictions that I really appreciate you make
made you know it appears here USA watchdog many people
I gotta be very happy that you came on Jim Sinclair JS might set dot com
thank you very much for joining us today USA watchdog backup
you most local great thank you

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et il ajoute : gold will place a bottom between 2/28, and 3/27, and that Thereafter gold is released to the upside which will be a minimum of $3500.


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Dans l'hypothèse de la réalisation de cette prévision pour le moins optimiste pour l'or, comme d'ailleurs pour la réalisation dans les 6 prochains mois des espérances d' Egon von Greyerz ( cours de 4000 à 5000$ pour l'or et 150 pour l'argent ), il va de soi que le coût de production des minières serait sans doute aussi en forte hausse du fait notamment de l' hyper inflation.
Néanmoins, seraient d'abord affectés les coûts de production hors investissements, ces derniers ( immobiliers, infrastructures, stocks en inventaire, réserves en terre ...) ayant été acquis avant majoration des prix et n'étant appelés à être affectés par la hausse qu'au fur et à mesure de leur renouvellement.
Dans ces conditions, puisque acquérir des actions de minières c'est, proportionnellement au capital détenu, posséder une partie de l'avoir social de la minière y compris ses stocks et ses autres actifs fixes de production, ne faudrait-il pas rechercher d'abord des sociétés ayant des réserves importantes ?
J'observe que dans minières, le ratio de capitalisation par once de réserves est très variable ce qui tient à démonter que ce critère ne doit pas être considéré isolément.
A votre avis quelles sont les sociétés qui auraient un grand potentiel en cas de forte hausse de l'or et l'argent.
( je sais que j'aurais pu poster aussi dans la rubrique des mines).


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A votre avis quelles sont les sociétés qui auraient un grand potentiel en cas de forte hausse de l'or et l'argent.
( je sais que j'aurais pu poster aussi dans la rubrique des mines).


c'est celles qui sont le moins rentables qui ont le plus gros potentiel, mais le risque est également plus grand. :mrgreen: :o
Quelques pistes >>
http://orargent.blogspot.fr/2011/06/les-fondamentaux-des-mines-leffet.html
http://orargent.blogspot.fr/2011/08/fondamentaux-des-mines-quand-faut-il.html
http://www.argent-or.blogspot.fr/#!http://argent-or.blogspot.com/2007/10/ptrole-et-mine-dor.html
http://argent-or.blogspot.fr/2007/12/ng-la-lecon-de-novagold-diversifier.html
http://argent-or.blogspot.fr/2010/09/fondamentaux-mines-le-hedging-6.html?q=mine

et enfin, tenir compte qu' une mine c'est "un trou dans le sol avec un menteur a son bord"
http://argent-or.blogspot.fr/2010/03/la-mine-dor-tcho-biloute-1.html?q=mine

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andre171 a écrit:
A votre avis quelles sont les sociétés qui auraient un grand potentiel en cas de forte hausse de l'or et l'argent.
( je sais que j'aurais pu poster aussi dans la rubrique des mines).


c'est celles qui sont le moins rentables qui ont le plus gros potentiel, mais le risque est également plus grand. :mrgreen: :o
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Merci pour ces liens, mais il n'y a pas que l'effet de levier.
Ce que je vise, c'est déterminer des mines qui ( en plus de l'effet de levier) pourraient tirer profit d'une plus-value ( latente) sur leurs stocks ( y compris ceux en terre) qui seraient de fait ( si pas nécessairement sur le plan comptable compte tenu des règles d'évaluation des inventaires) réévalués en cas de forte hausse des cours de l'or et l'argent .


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Merci pour ces liens, mais il n'y a pas que l'effet de levier.
Ce que je vise, c'est déterminer des mines qui ( en plus de l'effet de levier) pourraient tirer profit d'une plus-value ( latente) sur leurs stocks ( y compris ceux en terre) qui seraient de fait ( si pas nécessairement sur le plan comptable compte tenu des règles d'évaluation des inventaires) réévalués en cas de forte hausse des cours de l'or et l'argent .[/quote]

Oui en théorie ce que tu dis est vrai. Dans la pratique, c'est moins évident.
Par exemple, Cristallex est un "éléphant" (+1 million d'once en réserve), mais est au Venezuela ... et ne vaut rien!
ou Pasca Lama de Barrick Gold est immense mais à 4.000 mètres et la société est en conflit permanent avec la population locale
ou Rosa Montana en Roumanie qui ne parvient pas à commencer
etc ... les exemples sont innombrables: d'une part les réserves et de l'autre les difficultés de mise en oeuvre. Ce point est primordial, c'est de plus en plus compliqué: quand l'exploitation marche et que les réserves sont bonnes reste encore les taxes ou la nationalisation ou l'écologie.

Enfin comparer les réserves entre divers mines, c'est possible (parfois très difficile: comment comparer une mine à ciel ouvert dans le grand nord canadien avec une mine à 3.000 metres sous terre en Afrique du Sud) mais il y a tout le reste: les coûts d'exploitation. Et c'est très très variable.

Bref, sur certaines mines on gagne beaucoup et sur d'autres on boit la tasse même quand on a étudié la question.

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Transcription souvent phonétique. Par exemple on met "goal" pour "gold"...Question d'accent.

Mais je crois que c'est exploitable. Si j'ai le temps, j'essaierai de traduire. Toute autre help est bien entendu bienvenue.

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Pas de quoi se réjouir là dedans.

50 000$ l'once d'ici 2 ans ??
J'espère qu'il se trompe (et franchement, depuis le temps qu'on nous parle d'hyper inflation, c'est osé de donner des dates)

Bien que hyper chargé en or, je préfère le voir monter à 3000 d'ici 2 ans qu'a 50 000.

Car en cas d'hyper inflation, à combien est la baguette de pain ?
Si elle monte à 300 $ cela me fait une belle jambe d'avoir des onces à 50 000$. :cry:

Vous me direz, sauver son épargne est déjà pas mal.... :roll:


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Là est le miracle: si la baguette monte à 300, l'once monte à 300.000 :mrgreen:

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